Template talk:WeaponType Infobox

Classes doesn't contain weapon types. What I'm missing? --Ale1991 (talk) 02:03, 25 November 2018 (UTC) I looked over the reverse-engineering notes and they do have a type group after all (equip_group in Hertz's notes), and is shown in the skill inheritance menu. I've undone my edit. Endilyn (talk) 02:48, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
 * You can add the 'types' there instead of creating a new field. For example, adding "Dagger" classification to Red Dagger, Blue Dagger, Green Dagger and Colorless Dagger pages. Or, if you are querying for something like "all daggers" you can just do  Endilyn (talk) 02:17, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
 * I don't want to hardcode stuff, a new field allow to  without knowing in advance which weapon types exist and keep them separated from the other tags. Plus it will put the database a step closer to the first normal form. Ale1991 (talk) 02:36, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
 * You will need to hardcode stuffs or use the classes field, because "types" of weapons does not actually exist. Classifications don't either and that field is there to group weapons together based on how skill descriptions group them. If you want a complete list of all unique combinations of weapon types in weapon restrictions then query the weapons table.


 * What was wrong with the weapon classes? --Ale1991 (talk) 02:53, 1 January 2019 (UTC)
 * Some of the types had to be removed from classes to solve an issue on the to-do list. There is a  field now so there is no need to store duplicate information again in  . Some of the info was duplicated even within classes ("Tome" was already covered by "magic"). Endilyn (talk) 03:14, 1 January 2019 (UTC)

The type name of breath weapons is "Dragonstone"
Skill descriptions refer to users of breath weapons as "unit(s) using dragonstones" or "dragon unit(s)". Examples: The only places where "breath" refers to breath weapons are: The first two are for specific names, and the last one appears to be really old (nowhere else in the game does it refer to tomes as "spells"), so I would say "dragonstone" is the more correct term to refer to the four Breath weapon classes together. --HertzDevil (talk) 15:46, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Close Defense: If foe initiates combat and uses sword, lance, axe, or dragonstone, grants Def/Res+6 during combat.
 * Dragon Valor: While unit lives, all dragonstone allies on team get 2x SP. (Only highest value applied. Does not stack.)
 * Nidhogg, skill refine: Magic and dragon foes cannot counterattack.
 * Weapon names
 * Understanding Breath (the hint text also says "Breath weapons" and "ブレス攻撃" in Japanese)
 * Description for the Res stat: "The higher a unit's Resistance is, the less damage it takes from magical attacks (spells, staves, breath effects, etc.)."
 * I agree, but what I don't understand is why they are referred to as dragonstones collectively, when they are referred to as Breaths individually. Markfeh (talk) 02:19, 26 November 2018 (UTC)

Tomes
Why tomes aren't grouped like daggers, bows and dragonstones? --Ale1991 (talk) 22:00, 25 November 2018 (UTC)
 * If you check the Skill Search's filters in the Inherit Skill menu they are separate. This is the only officially recognized grouping of weapon types. Additionally, they don't share a common inheritance, like with colored daggers. For example, Rexcalibur cannot to be inherited to Red Tome users. Endilyn (talk) 23:08, 25 November 2018 (UTC)

Using "Dragonstone" vs "Breath"
ok first of all i have no idea what the proper/courteous channels of communication are so apologies in advance.

I am very confused by the use of WeaponList|Breath vs WeaponList|Dragonstone. so INITIALLY i assumed that the use of Breath was preferred over Dragonstone because of all the 6 pages that refer to those collection of weapons using the WeaponList template (Hone Dragons, Ward Dragons, Goad Dragons, Fortify Dragons, Dragonskin, Dragon Valor) the only page that used Dragonstone was Fortify Dragons.

but when my edit was reverted by Endilyn i was redirected to this page Fire_Emblem_Heroes_Wiki:Guidelines which stated the use of Dragonstone is preferred. so ok, i went and changed all the other pages to Dragonstone from Breath. but all of those changes also got reverted. so im not sure what the current stance over Dragonstone vs Breath is. would appreciate guidance. thanks in advance.

--24.115.81.82 00:35, 18 December 2018 (UTC)
 * Sorry, I got confused by the edit description "dragonstone" > "breath" so I thought you were changing it away from dragonstone, not to, and just quickly undid those edits. I realized just now that the > symbol was meant to be used as a greater than sign rather than an arrow sign. Endilyn (talk) 01:39, 18 December 2018 (UTC)