Fire Emblem Heroes Wiki talk:Build Center/Nino: Pious Mage

Hey uhh would someone be willing to edit my Glass Nuke set to have the correct numbers for her stats with Life and Death taken into account? I didn't do that before and I feel that's probably important to represent properly. Banryu187 (talk) 21:48, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Done.
 * Elaeagnifolia (talk) 22:08, 28 April 2017 (UTC)
 * Her speed should be 44 for this build now, correct? If so would you mind updating that as well.
 * lockcompetition (talk) 21:50, 15 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Fixed it, Spd boon + LaD3 is indeed 44. Saschb (talk) 22:04, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

I noticed that the Fury build recommends Resistance as a bane. Would it not be more prudent to recommend -def (or even -hp)? As far as I know, Nino is generally able to take a hit from the same physical threats with those banes, but she would be much better off against Reinhardt, a very common threat that you usually have to deal with first by virtue of his 3 movement. The only major difference I see is that she is just barely KO'd by Hector with -def or -hp, but by the time you have to deal with Hector, you will usually be in desperation range and he won't be an issue.
 * You are correct. I wrote my build on Nino before Reinhardt became a common unit. A res-neutral, HP-neutral Nino can naturally survive +atk, cavalry-buffed Reinhardt with 1 HP. This also allows her to naturally survive unbuffed +atk Rein with QP and Moonbow, whereas res-bane Nino requires at least +2 (commonly from the Fort Res seal). Neither variety survives a cavalry-buffed +atk Rein with QP and Moonbow, though.


 * Given that the detriments of different banes depend greatly on the opponent's nature and buffs, I support adding +spd/-def to the recommended IVs and changing the last sentence of the first paragraph to:
 * "There are comparable downsides to both the res and def bane. A def-neutral Nino can survive a counter from units with 54 effective atk or less (primarily atk-neutral Hector) and can survive units with 48 effective atk or less (primarily archers) after having taken a proc of Fury. A res-neutral Nino has much more favorable matchups against variations of Reinhardt, an arena powerhouse, and other Ninos up to 61 atk (reached by atk-neutral Nino with an Ephraim/Eirika fortify/hone suite: +3 atk, +4 spd or def, +2 res)."
 * --Killteam (talk) 20:18, 1 July 2017 (UTC)