Talk:Robin

I think that characters that can be both genders (Robin, Kanna, etc.) should be split into two pages, one for each gender.
 * I was always thinking about this because it will allow linking the correct mother/father --Ale1991 (talk) 14:34, 25 August 2018 (UTC)
 * Yeah, that's true. Plus, the community tends to consider the different genders as different characters, and I think IS does as well. 8.36.240.170 18:50, 25 August 2018 (UTC) (I keep forgetting to add the signature in my talk page edits >_>)
 * Yeah, they do consider male and female as separate, 'cause in the catalog, female Robin is listed after male Grima, even though male Grima was added in way after she was, and the catalog sorts the versions of each character by the date they were added into the code in. Same goes for Corrin.
 * So I tried to make this page the same as the other pages, like Lucina and Lyn, but the Heroes List and CYL don't load properly for Robin. Yet another reason I think there should be separate pages for male and female Robin, as well as other characters that can either gender, like Corrin or Morgan.
 * Actually, just did a test, and while the Hero List loads properly on the pages for the separate genders, CYL still doesn't, which is strange.
 * Hi, take a look at Project:To-do list for a discussion about characters. Endilyn (talk) 03:38, 10 September 2018 (UTC)
 * There was a lot of discussion at the Discord server and the general idea is to merge pages like this, and these were the reasons given:
 * The character pages already started as disambiguation pages, so it is inappropriate for Robin to be a double disambiguation page, or serve different functions compared to Robin M and Robin F if these are kept.
 * Both pages will contain nearly the same background, trivia that can be easily merged, and very often the same translated names.
 * The concept of "character" in the game does not extend beyond one sort key of the Origin sort, which is far too weak a property for pages on this wiki to have a one-to-one correspondence to them.
 * Templates can be made in such a way that does not always depend on the article name, e.g.  and   will work on any article, including Robin. The exact discriminator is an implementation detail of the database and should not affect how articles are divided.
 * Huh, the hero list works, and even lets me get both male and female in the same hero list. However, the CYL specification only allows me to put one or the other into its fields (and I've tried everything I could think of to make it work).  8.36.240.170 13:28, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Currently my sandbox version of Robin uses CYL/part directly; their relative order is arbitrary right now, but CYL can be made to accept a list of names, and the results would then be sorted by rank which I believe would be a reasonable choice. --HertzDevil (talk) 14:44, 13 September 2018 (UTC)
 * Linking to the correct page isn't a reason against merging, because the same can be achieved by creating subsections within a page and redirections that point to a particular subsection.
 * CYL results are fixed for now, but like HeroList they can be made to work on any article regardless of its name. See User:HertzDevil/sandbox/Robin for one possible layout. --HertzDevil (talk) 08:33, 13 September 2018 (UTC)